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From: Lightwithoutheat
To: ycantibu
Subject: happiness in slavery
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:47:39 EST
Received: from Lightwithoutheaty imo26.mx.aol.com 
From Lightwithoutheat Sun Feb 13 15:49:24 2000
 
 

Hello there.

I just read over your site and have nothing much to say about it. It doesn't suck since you are a wee little beginner, so its ok. As for the Xian comments... hmm. I've never seen anyone so devoted to spending so much time in this. Almost as devoted as some Xians are. Especially when most of the info is non-factual. I can understand why you feel the way you do about it.  Isn't the world a cruel place to live? So cruel. I wish I could talk to you about some of these things without the mask of the internet. I agree with many comments you said about the Xians, except for a few things.

I won't go into specifics. All I can say is that atheism has no real strength to stand on as far as scientific evidence. So far no one has proven there is no God.  I'm still waiting for it to happen, you know, like the rapture...? What is soo funny about this prevalent attitude is that my own Bible even talks about people just like you. Lucky you!

Well, anyhoo. When you are down in the hole like many people are, you will understand the way we do... hehe. It's humiliating, I know. I've been there. I know how you feel. Heh. Thing is, you won't find the answers in a church. Let me know if we can talk.  I'll give you some practical answers you won't hear from the local evangelist.

Lightwithoutheat
 
 



 
 

MY REPLY





Hello there.

>>I just read over your site and have nothing much to say about it. It
doesn't suck since you are a wee little beginner, so its ok. As for the Xian comments... hmm. I've never seen anyone so devoted to spending so much time in this. Almost as devoted as some Xians are.<<

Ha ther sugah and thanks for taking the time to look at my humble webpage.  I get the distinct impression you already dislike me :)  You never seen anyone as devoted to what?  Religion or the lack of it?  I wouldn't call one small webpage devotion.  If you think otherwise, you need to surf the web more.  If you want real devotion to religious issues or the lack of them, I suggest a website like  http://www.infidels.org    They have hundreds of pages.  It's also a great resource.
 

>>Especially when most of the info is non-factual.<<

Yes, I thought I made it clear on the atheism page that it wasn't an "evidence" page as there are thousands of pages out there already devoted to that.  It's just my little rant.
 

>>I can understand why you feel the way you do about it.  Isn't the world a cruel place to live? So cruel. I wish I could talk to you about some of these things without the mask of the internet.<<

I have serious doubts that you could know what a complete stranger feels, especially with the "cruel world" comment.  I'm sorry you feel the world is so bad.  However, it seems to me that you're implying that I think that, which is not true.
 

>>I agree with many comments you said about the Xians, except for a few things. I won't go into specifics. All I can say is that atheism has no real strength to stand on as far as scientific evidence. So far no one has proven there is no God. I'm still waiting for it to happen, you know, like the rapture...?<<

How do you prove a god or a fairy doesn't exist?  The one claiming such a thing would be the one that would have to prove it exists.  In all fairness, no one can prove that a giant invisible fairy doesn't live in the clouds above, but I won't believe that either.
 

>>What is soo funny about this prevalent attitude is that my own Bible even talks about people just like you. Lucky you!<<

People "just like" me?  I dunno if people "just like" me being talked about in the bible is such a great thing.  Don't people "just like" me get killed in the bible? :)
 

>>Well, anyhoo. When you are down in the hole like many people are, you will understand the way we do... hehe. It's humiliating, I know. I've been there. I know how you feel. Heh.<<

How do you know if I have ever been "down in the hole" or not?  You understand how I feel about what in particular?  I've had many bad things happen to me.  Just because I don't spill my whole life story on a webpage doesn't mean I don't have one sugah.
 

>>Thing is, you won't find the answers in a church. Let me know if we can talk. I'll give you some practical answers you won't hear from the local evangelist.<<

OK, I'll bite.  What practical answers do you want to give me and what questions am I supposed to ask?
 

STuPiDGiRL
http://www.happinessinslavery.com
 
 


His Reply





Hey there,

Thanks for answering my e-mail. I'm sure you get lots of it. As for the proof for God, I admit that I cannot prove God to you in any actual physical evidence. Any Christian who won't admit that is not worth your time. I cannot prove it. You will not find physical proof. I do not want to try either because that is not my job, but something He has much pleasure in doing. I have asked the same questions you have asked. So in some sort of a way I know how you feel. That doesn't mean I know you. If I could prove God then I would have no need for one. The proof that I have is not something I can give to you. The comment about Christians doing good because of some sort of fear of God is not true. It may be true with some, but not with me. To God, all sin is the same. That makes me no different than anyone else, regardless of belief. I will never change that fact. So I have to live with it. I will never be perfect or be considered better than someone else in God's eyes. Some Christians say that they are perfect or say they have all the answers, but they don't. They never will. Some things I will look for my whole life and still not know.
 

What I find with many of your views is sadly true in many churches and with many Christians. I almost am ashamed to call myself one sometimes, trust me. I know how your friend felt when you went to church with her. It disgusts me. What upsets me is when you judge me and put me with the rest. I understand you don't believe in God and I respect you for that. I deserve equal respect for my beliefs. I don't throw you in the crowd with other atheists I've talked to who are the opposite of you. I know you are different than the others.
 

I thought it was wonderfull though that you put all those nice links on your site to those Christian sites. That is very thoughtful of you. The more the better!

One question I have for you is when you die, what will happen? Will you go into some kind of eternal sleep? I'm curious of your thoughts about death. Please enlighten me. And if you have any questions I will answer them to the best of my honesty.

lightboy
 

 

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