<sisterjessica> It's not a requirement of Christianity to not beat your wife.
<sisterjessica> But, it _is_ wrong.
 
 
 

<JessicallingtheIRS> I would PUNISH my child severely if they
were pro-choice.
 
 
 

<TRiPNoTiC> but if your kid was pro-choice you'd severely punish 
him :)

<sisterjessica> He would have a difficult relationship with me forever
if he was prochoice.

<TRiPNoTiC> sisterjessica...i was juts thinking back to the other day 
when you said that

<sisterjessica> I woud absolutely have a difficult relationship with
my child.

<sisterjessica> I would be deeply ashamed of him/her.

<sisterjessica> And the quality of the relationship would diminish
drmatically.

<sisterjessica> I would just be incredibly disappointed and there 
would not be the emotional closeness of before. I would also have
to re-think things like inheritance, his ability to have a relationship 
with his siblings, just all kinds of things.

<sisterjessica> My relationship with him would be out of obligation 
only.

<STuPiDGiRL> that is really cold

<sisterjessica> I just know what would happen. I would be profoundly 
disappointed.

<Rex_Goodheart> sisterjessica, that's really cold.

<sisterjessica> I would not allow him to babysit his younger brother 
or sisters for sure.
 
 
 

<SisterJessica> I am just telling you.....for me to have a daughter 
that grew up to be an abortionist...it would be as devastating as 
having a convicted rapist for a son.
 
 
 

<Jiyuu> Well, aside from the burning of the Library of Alexandria, 
a great repository of knowledge from throughout the entire world 
where everything from the recipes for concrete (lost until the 1500s) 
and the plans for a STEAM ENGINE (!!) in the first few centures BC 
and AD, there was what happened to one of the last teachers in
Alexandria...

<sisterjessica> Jiyuu Yes, you are upset that they burnt some 
books and that delayed the building of a steam engine.

<Jiyuu> sister: If not for the fucking catholic church, we could 
have had an industrial revolution in THE FIRST CENTURY AD

<sisterjessica> It is unimportant to me the timing of the 
industrial revolution.

<sisterjessica> Well, every faith and every culture has 
something negative in their history.
 
 
 

<Jiyuu> There was a woman, whose name escapes me 
at the moment...she was a teacher at the school of 
Alexandria.  She was taken as a full equal by her peers
in Alexandria.  The archbishop of Alexandria led a mob 
mostly consisting of high-level members of his church to 
burn the library and murder this woman by cutting off her 
skin while she was alive with seashells and then throwing 
her body onto the very books on mathematics and science she

<sisterjessica> Jiyuu I am sure she was warned and asked 
to be obedient.

<sisterjessica> Jiyuu She may have been teaching certain
things prohibited.

<Jiyuu> She was murdered because the archbishop 
believe that math was the same as witchcraft

<Jiyuu> jessica...SHE TAUGHT MATH AND SCIENCE!!

<sisterjessica> Regardless, even if she was teaching 
paganism or something like that she shouldn't have
been tortured or killed. I don't support that. I am just 
saying that she might have made an informed choice.

<sisterjessica> Jiyuu If you warned someone is going 
to do somethng to you if you do something and then
it happens...I mean....there is some responsibility 
there.
 
 
 

<boz> what the hell is the difference? you cant tell 
someone's ethnicity or race when someone tells you
they are jewish. 

<tecate45> boz:  big nose

<boz> you cant do the same when someone tells you
they are a muslim, buddhist or christian either

<boz> tecate45: that is a stereo type.

<tecate45> boz: based on some truth...many jews  
have big noses

<boz> tecate45: many people have big noses. it has 
nothing to do with being jewish

<HighKaramba> the noses are just a metaphor for 
something else
 
 
 

<unforgvn> evidence is obvious, there is no justice in 
the life , so there has to be one in the afterlife since The 
creator of universe cared about order in the universe
 
 
 

<clue> I sense inside you is a person on deep faith 
waiting to come out serve the Almighty

<trymder> clue I sense inside you is a rationalist, 
but you killed him on alleged divine instructions
 
 
 

<Vampryssss> you know, anyone can say science 
has answers, but, if it weren't for faith and belief, 
we wouldn't have science
 
 
 

<SONofFIRE> Religious minds are the only sanity
left in the World
 
 
 

<SONofFIRE> you have been perverted since 
childhood, you have been fed mainstream lies, 
the churches have become corrupt, they have driven 
you away through hipocrisy,they only thing you can 
say, is against man, GOD is not at fault, but soon you 
will receive his wrath, for resisting truth, for notng
your Bible and seeing GOD through his word and not 
through your ideas about religion.
 
 
 

<Dare2Know> we are more Controlled now then at 
any time in history since last time if there was one
 
 
 

<Tish`> even an atheist believes in God......eventually :)
 
 
 

<JoeM> about 150 authors helped, and it took over 
1,000 years on three continents...coincedence I presume?
 
 
 

<shakka> i'm in Lisbon, they burned a lot of people 
here- non-believers

<JoeM> That is very sad
 
 
 

<JoeM> PLease just leave me alone, you have hurt 
my feelings
 
 
 

<petrel> Genesis 1 teaches that there is a purpose to 
creation, that humanity has dignity
 
 
 

<Ezekiel> u guys have too much education
 
 
 

<SoulHuntr769 finds it hilarious that you blame all 
the misery in the world on God
 
 
 

<SoulHuntr769> Some people think I am foolish
 
 
 

<|KL0WN|> God is our government...and they are 
atheist........go figure
 
 
 

<promisekp> evolution has been disproved by the fossils
 
 
 

<changedperson> I hardly think a human could have 
written the gospels, I mean look at what humans write, 
eg, the Muslem texts, buddist etc.
 
 
 

<newfndglory> I am aware of the atheistic arguments
and existential nihilism of Neitsche etc... I am not 
convinced and I will willingly debate with you on any 
level you care too, atheism is dead and without worth, 
meaning, or structure to base one's fragile reality on,
it leads to trauma that will lead to psychological collapse, 
it is a hell here and now
 
 
 

<newfndglory> God is a real thing, as real as a chair, 
or any physical object, real force, love in its purest form,
it takes shape and moves those who would follow it,
it moves me, I know it is real in the most real sense
of real 
 
 
 

<eagle01> now the commercialization of Christmas is 
what is truly sad

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<Koky> and he's bitching about commercialization?!?